Logic Puzzle 194, Hiccup Cures

[RaRA]

I know I must be missing something. In this puzzle, I have deduced that Ellie=Allisax2. What is confounding is where Angelica fits in? Possible combinations are Allisa=1hour, Ellie=2hours and Angelica=4hours OR Angelica=1hour, Allisa=2hours and Ellie=4hours. I can't see a clue that I have missed to justify one scenario over the other . PLEASE HELP.

[zenobia43]

Here is a link to some corrections/additions to Volume 1.

https://forum.puzzlebaron.com/forum/puzzle-baron/logic-puzzles/22078-hints-for-first-puzzle-baron-s-logic-puzzles-book-2010?p=24982#post24982

[RaRA]

Thanks Zenobia, regarding Clue 1-we know Alissa’s attack is half as long as Ellie’s. The part of the clue that we have deduced is Alissa therefore straight forward- Alissa=school. I don’t see how Angelica can be 2 hours. In my grid Angelica can only be either 1 hour and Alissa-2 with Ellie-4 OR Angelica-4 hours, Ellie-2 hours and Alissa-1.

[RaRA]

Puzzle 97 has a clue omitted
5. Buy Low, Sell High (97)

Add clue: The stock in the pharmaceutical sector has a greater value than HOPN

[zenobia43]

I completely mis-read Clue 1 and missed Alissa = School. Thanks! Now I can solve the puzzle. It requires a couple of the advanced techniques. Can you post your grid?

At one point, I had the unsolved rectangles, and it was Clue 7 that solved those rectangles.

[RaRA]

Glad I could help, but I first posted this because I needed help. I know you have helped me in the past and I am grateful. My problem is using the clues to figure out which of these 2 scenarios is correct. Either Aliss has the hiccups for 1 hour and since Ellie is twice as long therefore 2 hours and Angelica 4 hours OR Angelica for 1 hour, Alissa for 2 hours and Ellie for 4 hours. PLEASE HELP!

[zenobia43]

Once you prove that Abraham = {15 min, Car, Be Frightened}, the only remaining friend that can = Hold Breath will be Ellie. Clues 1 and 2 eliminate the other three friends.

Then when Ellie = Hold Breath, Clue 2 will force Angelica to be 4 hours.

Clues 1, 2, and 5 prove that 15 min = Car, and Clues 1, 2, and 6 prove that 15 min = Abraham. Then using Clue 3, we can prove that Abraham = Be Frightened.

[RaRA]

I must be missing something because I really don’t understand how clues 1,2 and 5 lead to the conclusion that 15 minutes equals car. I have 15 minutes equals Abraham.

[zenobia43]

Clue 2 tells us the possible attack durations (second half of clue) for Angelica and Playground (first half of clue).

The durations can either be 4 hours (directly from the clue) or the durations associated with Hold Breath cure (indirectly from the clue). This is the tricky part.

What are the durations associated with the Hold Breath cure?

At this point in the solution Clues 1, 2 and 3 have restricted the Hold Breath durations to 1 and 2 hours.

So Angelica and Playground can only be associated with 1, 2 and 4 hours.

This is how you discover that Playground cannot be 15 minutes. That only leaves Car = 15 minutes because Home has been eliminated by Clue 5, and Pool and School have been eliminated by Clue 1.

[RaRA]

Thanks to you, I have been able to complete the puzzle. This opens Pandora’s box, however because as I move on to the next puzzle I hit walls trying to decifer the clues. You, on the other hand seem to have a more analytical perspective that I would love to learn from. I will post my grid of “At the DMV”, p.195. I use small circles in the upper right hand of the grid to show possible positive answers ( re: clue #4)-#241 has to be either Rocco or renew drivers license OR telephone time-Rocco or renew license. I really hope to hear back from you and maybe learn your unique perspective. Once again, thank you.

[zenobia43]

The second half of Clue 4 says that Rocco can be 241 or Telephone (the first half of Clue 4).

From your grid, Telephone can only be 239 and 242.

So Rocco can only be 239, 241, or 242.

I think that will help you determine which driver is 238.

[RaRA]

I am surprised at the satisfaction I felt upon completing this puzzle. Your perspective on solving these clues was instrumental in the solution. I truly hope I can interpret these clues with the insight you do. It’s almost like Neo when he figures out the Matrix.