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  • Naboka
    Premium Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 786

    #1

    remember when

    The monthly average-points-per-word competition used to raise a lot of eyebrows.

    And some protests.

    Remember when some players would find that one really long word, then establish that as their average by submitting a bunch of games with zero words played?

    Admin finally put an end to that by making those games not count so you had to play at least one word.

    Since I haven 't really played high average points per word until recently, I hadn't paid much attention to the mechanics and methods players used to reach high averages. It seems that all you have to do is scan through games until you discover one with a very high scoring word. then play that single word on that game. Then repeat.

    Since in 4x4 most of the 33 point plus words are really easy to find if you already know it exists on the pregame stats , it's not much of a challenge to find those words and get a high average. Just the tedium of scanning games. But then...it often takes less than ten seconds to get that word once the game is opened if that's all you're looking for and you already know it's there.

    But, these aren't really words the person found, they've just piggy-backed off someone else's efforts. They didn't have to start from scratch and solve the puzzle. They're just using a loophole rather than skill.

    I'm not sure of the merits of a competition where players can simply use the efforts of other players as a springboard for their own "success."

    An argument can be made that for one to qualify for highest average points per word, the player must also have established a certain number of their own best word records during that month. Say 50 since the contest requires that 50 games be played. Doesn't mean you can't play a thousand games that month, only that you have to have played at least 50 games where you set the best word record for that game. You could also play those opportunistic boards, but your average would have more validity rather than simply reflecting a successful exploitation of a loophole.

    Maybe, I'm just being picky from dealing with students who want to slide by using other people's work. I'm just growing weary of seeing a picture of someone and finding out it isn't even a real person. Discolored teeth have started to seem more attractive because they're real, not fake. Mediocre accomplishments that are real have started to have more and more value.

    It's just harder and harder to admire loopholes. I want my heroes to deserve the admiration.

  • 2cute
    Member
    • Feb 2019
    • 464

    #2
    "you have to have played at least 50 games where you set the best word record for that game" If this were the case my scores would never count as I maybe set 2 or 3 per month. I think this standard is much too high for those of us who just play for fun. If my score could never be counted I'd probably leave the site as what's the point to continue trying to compete with people like yourself who spend far more time playing than myself. I want my effort to be at least recorded.

    "I want my heroes to deserve the admiration.​" I agree with you on this point.

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    • Naboka
      Premium Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 786

      #3
      Originally posted by 2cute
      "you have to have played at least 50 games where you set the best word record for that game" If this were the case my scores would never count as I maybe set 2 or 3 per month. I think this standard is much too high for those of us who just play for fun. If my score could never be counted I'd probably leave the site as what's the point to continue trying to compete with people like yourself who spend far more time playing than myself. I want my effort to be at least recorded.

      "I want my heroes to deserve the admiration." I agree with you on this point.
      You make a valid point. All of a person's games should count.

      I suppose what I was suggesting was finding a way to make the competition as fair as possible, in a way that reflects an individual's honest efforts. A kid that turns in a Pulitzer-prize caliber term paper that he got from AI certainly isn't showing his ability. It wasn't his efforts. It wasn't his ideas. He just copied something.

      There has to be some way to eliminate the piggyback loophole where a player makes no effort to do anything other than use the efforts of other players to enhance their own scores. I think neither of us uses that loophole. If a person averages 33 points a word for the month, having played 50 games and not having earned a single additional best word record, it's a fair indication that something's amiss.

      I think that finding a word no one else has is a rewarding accomplishment. Finding a word that you know someone else has found and how much it's worth is sort of solving a puzzle that's 3/4ths done. Nice, but not quite the same.

      Surely, there's a solution to the piggybacking being more highly rewarded than the efforts of individuals who actually solve the puzzle from scratch.

      I drive my wife crazy testing ideas to solve problems. Sometimes hundreds of ideas, many of them contradictory, before I either figure it out or set it aside for future examination. I have no solution for this. And I apologize for clawing this rotting bone from Wordtwist's flowerbeds. The flowers were so pretty. The hole an eyesore.

      Maybe the solution is to just climb on board the clickbait train driven by "likes," and pretend that all the pretense is reality. To watch those videos of eagles swooping down to grab a baby from his carriage only to be thwarted by the family dog who leaps 30 feet into the air to knock the predator senseless.

      So impressive.

      And so false.


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